Posted by: bhupp | 24th Nov, 2008

Other wars

It is so bad that the american government was not ready for the Korean war.  We should of been able to win the Korean war and maybe Vietnam would of turned out better, but no the Government was not prepared for a war and we had to end up in a stallmate.  The American Government should of realized all its faults after the other wars and fixed them. 

They did for the most part, the veterans got better disability pension after 1812, they even got pensions for just being in the war and this got even better after the civil war.  They got the GI bill after WWII.  THe public treated the vets better across the board also.  This falls down after Korea and worse after Vietnam.

Posted by: bhupp | 12th Nov, 2008

Remembering War the American Way

          The biggest thing that i love about the Korean “War” was that it was actually a “Police Action” not a war.  This just seems very interesting to me.  I knew this was thought of the war before reading this essay, but when reading this essay it was emphasizedmore than before.  During the cold war America starts to see itself as the defender of freedom and the fighter of communism.  We see a big change from isolationism to an America that cared more about the world than of themselves.  We felt unstoppable at this time since we just came out of a huge victory over the Fascists and we haven’t lost a war yet.

          This would soon change when America entered into the Korean War.  It looked like we were doing very well unitil we got to close to the Chinese border and they felt threatened.  China invaded North Korea and pushed us back.  We had a real fight on our hands now.  We ended up not losing but not winning the war.  We got out of Korea luckily without losing it completely to the communists.  I really like how the government didnt let any of the dead soliders stay in Korea.  They were all brought home.  On the graves of the soliders back at home they were not allowed to put Korea War because it wasnt a war.  That seems very gay.  They fought and died for there country.  The veterans did get a heroes welcome when they got home though.  The Korean war became a forgotten war after a couple of years.  It made me mad that no one wanted to create a memorial after the war.

           It was interesting to read that the civil war saw more bloody destructive protests to drafts than the vietnam war.  I was super pissed when i read that NV would not account for missing soliders or return the remains of dead soliders back to the UNited States of America.  So they could punish America and use them as possible bargining chips. Obviously there were POW’s left in Vietnam, even though NV denied.  We know that there was POW in Vietnam because Rambo found many in Rambo: first blood Part II. JK!!!! I hate how the Viet Vet is seen as baby killers, when only a small percent of the vets actually took part of the killing of Vietnam civilians.  Veterans saw no parades whenthey got back from the war. There was one exception, when POW’s came back from Hanoi.  The vietnam war never became a forgotten war.  The vietnam memorial was built in the early 80’s a lot faster than any other memorial was built after other wars.  The Korean memorial was finally made more than 35 years after the war was eneded.

Posted by: bhupp | 10th Nov, 2008

Wages of War chp.23-27

It is terrible that the government is making a bigger budget for weapons and tanks but cutting the budget on hospitals and veteran care.  It seemed like the govenment didnt care about the young men who sacrificed so much for there country.  The country just turned its back on the veterans.  The public made the veterans feel bad also with all the anti-war movements.  They should of accepted the troops and not put the veterans and the war in the same basket.

What makes me the most mad is to see how the United States treated the Viet. and the Veterans during the Vietnam war.  They sprayed Orange Spray all over Vietnam and it affected the civilians and the soliders. It destroyed a lot of crops and had unseen effects on the soliders.  When they got back to the States the govrenment just threw out the claims of the soliders. I wonder what Vietnam would be like now if we didnt kill and injured millions of people.  Maybe it would of turned into a democratic nation.

Posted by: bhupp | 5th Nov, 2008

Born on the Fourth of July II

I really liked the second part of this book. Some parts of it really made me mad and upset. The veterans who came home were not treated the same as the ones, who came home from WWII or WWI. When Kovicwent to the parade, they did not applaud or cheer him on. They just stood there staring at him and his friend.  He said “it was like being a animal in a zoo or that they were on display.”  Other thing that Kovic realizes is that it is easier to talk to vets about the war and his wound then non-vets.  I can see how that is so.They were the vets and they were not even allowed to speak at there own parade. It was sad to see Kovic fall apart and start drinking a lot. 

It was good to see him start to get back on his feet and get more focused.  It was sad again when he had to go back to a VA hospital.  GUESS WHAT IT HASNT CHANGED.  He was treated terribly with all the other veterans.  This is were he started to get the anti-war bug.  He starts to attends meetings at the VVAW.  Its amazing how he becomes a public speaker.  I would have loved to hear him speak.  I was OUTRAGEDwhen Kovic was beat during a protest.  How do you beat up a crippled man in a wheel chair.  Throughout the book he feels a lot of guilt since he killed the corporal and the villagers.

Posted by: bhupp | 3rd Nov, 2008

Born on the Fourth of July

I really like this book.  It has more of a story then the other books we have read.  It also gives good insight on how it was to be a solider in Vietnam.  It is a really good read so far because it makes you want to find out what is going to happen next in the book.  What is going to happen to Kovic.  It was kind of boring during his childhood but we need that to set up the rest of the book. 

When he talks about being in the different hospitals, I couldn’t imagine what he was saying.  The smells and the sights he must of experienced. Its amazing he kept his will to live up in such a place.  Knowing that you were never going to be able to stand or walk again would of been a hard thing to deal with.  The worst thing of all the scenes is the enema room.  They didn’t have any respect for the soldiers and cover them up when they were being moved from room to room.  That is so embarrassing. Over all I am enjoying this book a lot so far.

Its seems that the boot camps were about the same.  They had the sergeants who yelled at you and make you feel like crap.  You had to march with all your gear on your back.  The worst part I think of boot camp is the constant degradationof the soldiers at the camps.

Posted by: bhupp | 27th Oct, 2008

Wages of war 20/ The Greatest Generation

          As we learned in class WWII was a great boost to Civil Rights. We see that in the reading. Not just whites but blacks were seen as heroes in WWII. Miller took up arms against the Jap’s when he didn’t have to. He sacrificed himself when he didn’t have to. There is a drastic change in the amount of African Americans in the military from the Revolution to WWII. They are even allowed to fly planes in WWII, they got well known at doing that. Everyone has heard about the Tuskegee Airmen.

          This is also a great time for the struggle of women. They were still seen as house keepers before WWII. During the war numbers of women in the military had jumped drastically from other wars. They also had to fight in the factories at the home front. Keep the supply of weapons and materials up, so there men could fight the good fight. The creation of groups for women helped them obtain jobs in the military. It didn’t help them get benefits after the war. They let women fly planes during the war but not actually in combat. They even had to tow targets so the men could shot at moving aircraft. None of these women organizations were seen as part of the “military” so they didn’t get any benefits. They did finally get recognition way after the war in the 70’s but that was way to late for them to use the G.I. Bill effectively and for all its worth. The VA had inadequate supplies and doctors for the needs of women veterans.

          After WWII we see another communist scare. This in due to the COLD WAR!!!! Americans thought that the communists would try to take over America. This went so far that people said the President, VA, American Legion, and other veteran organizations were communists. One of these “communist” organizations was the AVC. The AVC was seen as communist because it was very liberal in its thinking. It had many well known members including Ronald Regan. This organization had to disband since it lost its liberal support when it kicked out a communist member.

          Over all the time period after WWII was a time of great turmoil. Civil rights movements for the desegregation of a country. To women’s rights and the start of the women worker. The rise of the “communists” in America. Finally the start of a cold war and scare of Nuclear Destruction!!! It turned out to be a great time for America with its economic boom and new ideals.

Posted by: bhupp | 22nd Oct, 2008

Greatest Generation comes Home

            WWII created the largest number of American casualties in any war.  291,557 Americans died in the war. WOW what a big number.  671,846 Americans were wounded during the war. Another staggering figure. Over half a million men were wounded.  The good thing we do see in WWII, is that more wounded soldiers survived there wounds during the war.  This happened because of penicillin, other drugs, and the ability to use blood plasma close to the fronts.  There were also improved surgical techniques that allowed amputees have a higher survival rate.  We see a reduction of disability from fractures from 46% in WWI to only 10% in WWII. What an improvement. 


             Veteran’s Administration was the largest independent agency in the federal government.  It was not adequate to support the veterans during the war, but after the war General Bradley took control over the VA and he kicked into gear.  He created a much stronger medical-corps.  This was a huge help since the number of patients that were coming home from the front was rising at drastic numbers.  Bradley also created many more hospitals and made tens of thousands of new beds for the rush of patients.  By, 1947 the budget of VA was over 500,000 dollars.     

Posted by: bhupp | 20th Oct, 2008

doing battle 2

This part of the book was very interesting.  Just seeing what he did with the rest of his life and that he got back to civilian life alright makes me happy.  It is really cool that he was so interested in poetry.  What caught me the most was that he was thinking about becoming a communist, after he fought for democracy.  Luckily he didn’t join the communist party and become a victim of the red scare.

            I love how he talked about how the war affected more than just the soldiers that fought in it.  It affected the civilians back at home.

Posted by: bhupp | 1st Oct, 2008

The Doughboys II

            The first thing that came out at me was that the government was planning to bulk up the amount of troops in Europe.  This was happening right when the armistice was signed.  Now the government had to worry more on demobilization.  They were not ready or equipped to make this happening as quickly as a lot of the troops would like to happen.  They tried to come up with many plans but these plans were too involved for the army at the time.  They were thinking about waiting for jobs to open up, let the most veteran troops go home first, or let community draft boards decide.  They decided to “discharge men when the military rationale for their mobilization had ceased to exist” (pg.132).  This plan started by dismissing the troop’s state side and then goes down from there.


            The major problem with this plan for demobilization or any plan for demobilization is that the men are stuck in very tight quarters while waiting for there chance to get home.  When winter came around, there problems got a lot worse.  Massive Influenza epidemics swept through the camps faster then the Germans swept through France in WWII.  Many men in the army didn’t die of battle but died after the war was over and died of disease.  WOW THAT’S REDICULOUS. 


            Many soldiers stationed throughout Europe started to protest.  They started to give up the military discipline that they had.  They began to get very angry with there officers and the American high command over all.  They just wanted to go home but they were stuck in Europe.  Some men even made plans to march onto there camp HQ.  They were persuaded by there NCOs not to do it.  The NCOs made sure to get a set sail date for home (135). 


            Since the army stopped censoring all the mail that was sent state side.  Many soldiers asked there families or congressmen for help.  They asked that the people at home would push the government to get the troops home.  Finally, with the pushing of many citizens and important people in America, the troops were finally home.


            We see the creation of the American Legion by former officers after WWI.  This organization is very like the GAR.  It was created because the veterans of WWI wanted an organization that they could gather in and gain public support.  Just like the GAR the American Legion fought for veteran pensions and for help for veterans in general.  It was a hard fight for the veterans to get some money from the country.  Again we see that the American government thinks that the veterans should be happy with just serving for there country and not put a monetary value on service for there country.  These men needed compensation for there country.  The government did give them low interest loans to help pay for there debts.  The government did learn from there mistake.  All the pushing, rallies, and marches that were done by the veterans helped out in the long run.  The congress passed the GI bill in 1944, that set up a great pension for US veterans.    


Posted by: bhupp | 29th Sep, 2008

The Doughboys

       You don’t see the same amount of patriotism and ready to fight in WWI as you do in the Civil War or the Revolution.  Maybe this is caused because the fighting was in Europe and not in America.  We see the American government institute the draft for the first time.  This was needed because there wasn’t the same amount of volunteers that we see in the Civil War.


       We do see the use of black soldiers carelessly, like in the Civil War.  The government didn’t want black soldiers but when they got desperate they turned to these amazing fighters.  Like in the Civil War they are thrown at the mostly fortified enemies.  They see the hardest fighting just like in the Civil War. 


       Alvin York saw a lot of the fighting.  He was in most of the major conflicts the US was in during WWI.  He turned out to be a very good fighter as well.  In the diary article thing they talk about  “Practically unassisted, he captured 132 Germans (three of whom were officers), took about thirty-five machine guns, and killed no less than twenty-five of the enemy, later found by others on the scene of York’s extraordinary exploit.”  This was investigated by his headquarters and it seemed like he actually did this.


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